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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2018 23:54:06 GMT -5
Weiblers liked it!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2018 23:55:35 GMT -5
Speaking of which... Why hasn't Welliberers joined yet?
I have his user name all picked out: The Haunted Dutchman.
Innit?
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Post by President Ackbar miniā¢ on Dec 19, 2018 0:05:03 GMT -5
I tried watching it at work, I could barely get through it.
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Post by Morpho š¦ on Dec 19, 2018 11:34:50 GMT -5
I tried watching it at work, I could barely get through it. ...because itās too much awesome?
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Post by President Ackbar miniā¢ on Dec 19, 2018 11:47:23 GMT -5
I tried watching it at work, I could barely get through it. ...because itās too much awesome? lol i dont know, granted it was an online bootleg, but i just couldnt get into it at all
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Post by Morpho š¦ on Dec 19, 2018 12:46:15 GMT -5
...because itās too much awesome? lol i dont know, granted it was an online bootleg, but i just couldnt get into it at all Man, do you bootlegs at work everyday?
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Post by President Ackbar miniā¢ on Dec 19, 2018 13:12:31 GMT -5
lol i dont know, granted it was an online bootleg, but i just couldnt get into it at all Man, do you bootlegs at work everyday? not everyday, im actually pretty picky about what i take time to watch, i did watch SMITSV monday, but the last one before that was Venom like a month ago, and the last one before that was probably AM&tW
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Post by President Ackbar miniā¢ on Dec 19, 2018 13:15:15 GMT -5
i thought i would want to watch The Meg and The Predator, but when the time came to actually sit and do it, i was like .........
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Dec 19, 2018 13:38:55 GMT -5
Speaking of which... Why hasn't Welliberers joined yet? I have his user name all picked out: The Haunted Dutchman. Innit? Not sure. I offered the link to a group chat that he's part of.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 14:19:00 GMT -5
Honestly, everyone seems to like it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 15:48:32 GMT -5
Honestly, everyone seems to like it. Are you gonna see it? I'm going next week.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 17:03:52 GMT -5
So the consensus is that this is a win, putting DCEU at 2-3-1 overall, by my count. As opposed to MCU's 19-0.
DC got Marvel right where they want 'em! Yeah, that's the ticket...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2018 17:17:07 GMT -5
Honestly, everyone seems to like it. Are you gonna see it? I'm going next week. Of course.
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Post by Morpho š¦ on Dec 19, 2018 18:16:14 GMT -5
So the consensus is that this is a win, putting DCEU at 2-3-1 overall, by my count. As opposed to MCU's 19-0. DC got Marvel right where they want 'em! Yeah, that's the ticket... Whatās the 1?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 15:04:47 GMT -5
So the consensus is that this is a win, putting DCEU at 2-3-1 overall, by my count. As opposed to MCU's 19-0. DC got Marvel right where they want 'em! Yeah, that's the ticket... Whatās the 1? 2 wins: WW, AM 3 losses: BvS, SS, JL 1 "tie": MoS That's my thought anyway. Your mileage may vary! There's quite a bit of concerted and ongoing debate about which DCEU movies are worse than others. It's a race to the bottom!
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Post by Morpho š¦ on Dec 20, 2018 16:14:03 GMT -5
2 wins: WW, AM 3 losses: BvS, SS, JL 1 "tie": MoS That's my thought anyway. Your mileage may vary! There's quite a bit of concerted and ongoing debate about which DCEU movies are worse than others. It's a race to the bottom! I thought itād be MoS. Good call.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2019 12:41:28 GMT -5
2 wins: WW, AM 3 losses: BvS, SS, JL 1 "tie": MoS That's my thought anyway. Your mileage may vary! There's quite a bit of concerted and ongoing debate about which DCEU movies are worse than others. It's a race to the bottom! So how'd you like "Aquaman?" I thought it was good, but riddled with problems.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2019 23:53:15 GMT -5
2 wins: WW, AM 3 losses: BvS, SS, JL 1 "tie": MoS That's my thought anyway. Your mileage may vary! There's quite a bit of concerted and ongoing debate about which DCEU movies are worse than others. It's a race to the bottom! So how'd you like "Aquaman?" I thought it was good, but riddled with problems. I saw Spider-Man: ITSV instead. I fucking loved it. Best Peter Parker ever in a filmic adaptation of the character. The dude WAS (616) Peter, to me. Script was tight, the animation looked great, and the story was very good given the pretty bland Bendis source material. I read that entire original Miles run and never enjoyed the character even a little bit. Here, I rooted for him. Here, the dude was on a journey, and we were given a story to believe in. Here, we saw him struggle and get the rub from the best. The other Spider-characters were fun, and the alt/ultimate versions of characters helped the story rather than hindered it as is so often the case. Just a ton of fun and worth seeing in a theater, I think. I'll prolly see AM when it comes on like HBOgo. I've no preexisting relationship with the character and grew up reading Marvel almost exusively outside of Batman and the occasional Superman floppy. What problems did you have with it? ETA: I considered AM a "win" because it seems to be making decent money relative to expectations and, anecdotally, everyone I know who's seen it has given me positive feedback.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2019 16:58:18 GMT -5
So how'd you like "Aquaman?" I thought it was good, but riddled with problems. I saw Spider-Man: ITSV instead. I fucking loved it. Best Peter Parker ever in a filmic adaptation of the character. The dude WAS (616) Peter, to me. Script was tight, the animation looked great, and the story was very good given the pretty bland Bendis source material. I read that entire original Miles run and never enjoyed the character even a little bit. Here, I rooted for him. Here, the dude was on a journey, and we were given a story to believe in. Here, we saw him struggle and get the rub from the best. The other Spider-characters were fun, and the alt/ultimate versions of characters helped the story rather than hindered it as is so often the case. Just a ton of fun and worth seeing in a theater, I think. I'll prolly see AM when it comes on like HBOgo. I've no preexisting relationship with the character and grew up reading Marvel almost exusively outside of Batman and the occasional Superman floppy. What problems did you have with it? ETA: I considered AM a "win" because it seems to be making decent money relative to expectations and, anecdotally, everyone I know who's seen it has given me positive feedback. I agree on every point concerning The Spiderverse, though I'm not as in love with it as you seem to be. Well, you'll find "Aquaman" is a competently made piece of popcorn with an above-average amount of plot holes, inconsistencies, and a villain who makes most other film villains look deep. Like, even "Lethal Weapon" bad guys are more deeply written than Aquaman's half-brother, Orm. It's fun, the visuals are great, the characters are enjoyable, the action is good, and the film keeps moving, and there is no shortage of variety in environments and set pieces. More on the villain: the guy doesn't have a motive to invade the surface world. None whatsoever. The best he's given is one throwaway line about how us surface dwellers litter and pollute. I never thought I'd say this of a DCEU film, but I was expecting better of their villain, because, muddled as their motives were, at least Zod, Lex, Steppenwolf, and Ares HAD them. The worst part is watching poor Patrick Wilson desperately trying to make this cardboard cutout he's been hired to play into a proper character. He WANTS Orm to be a character so bad, but the script gives him nothing beyond some vague xenophobia. And we're not even meant to really hate him, either, because there are times where he LOOKS conflicted and tormented, an obvious visual cue that he's supposed to be "deep," but it's completely unearned. I'm convinced that director James Wan and his writers filmed scenes that gave the story and characters more depth, but all of them ended up on the cutting room floor, because Warner Bros.
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I saw Spider-Man: ITSV instead. I fucking loved it. Best Peter Parker ever in a filmic adaptation of the character. The dude WAS (616) Peter, to me. Script was tight, the animation looked great, and the story was very good given the pretty bland Bendis source material. I read that entire original Miles run and never enjoyed the character even a little bit. Here, I rooted for him. Here, the dude was on a journey, and we were given a story to believe in. Here, we saw him struggle and get the rub from the best. The other Spider-characters were fun, and the alt/ultimate versions of characters helped the story rather than hindered it as is so often the case. Just a ton of fun and worth seeing in a theater, I think. I'll prolly see AM when it comes on like HBOgo. I've no preexisting relationship with the character and grew up reading Marvel almost exusively outside of Batman and the occasional Superman floppy. What problems did you have with it? ETA: I considered AM a "win" because it seems to be making decent money relative to expectations and, anecdotally, everyone I know who's seen it has given me positive feedback. I agree on every point concerning The Spiderverse, though I'm not as in love with it as you seem to be. Well, you'll find "Aquaman" is a competently made piece of popcorn with an above-average amount of plot holes, inconsistencies, and a villain who makes most other film villains look deep. Like, even "Lethal Weapon" bad guys are more deeply written than Aquaman's half-brother, Orm. It's fun, the visuals are great, the characters are enjoyable, the action is good, and the film keeps moving, and there is no shortage of variety in environments and set pieces. More on the villain: the guy doesn't have a motive to invade the surface world. None whatsoever. The best he's given is one throwaway line about how us surface dwellers litter and pollute. I never thought I'd say this of a DCEU film, but I was expecting better of their villain, because, muddled as their motives were, at least Zod, Lex, Steppenwolf, and Ares HAD them. The worst part is watching poor Patrick Wilson desperately trying to make this cardboard cutout he's been hired to play into a proper character. He WANTS Orm to be a character so bad, but the script gives him nothing beyond some vague xenophobia. And we're not even meant to really hate him, either, because there are times where he LOOKS conflicted and tormented, an obvious visual cue that he's supposed to be "deep," but it's completely unearned. I'm convinced that director James Wan and his writers filmed scenes that gave the story and characters more depth, but all of them ended up on the cutting room floor, because Warner Bros. Thanks for the thorough rundown. It sounds... a lot like the rest of the DCEU movies, honestly. Half-baked yet overwrought, unearned but overblown, fun but stupid, and so on. I will say that I don't like the look of the film, from what I've seen; there's just a(n "underwater") sheen on it that's off-putting, but I guess you prolly stop noticing it after a few minutes.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 15:03:23 GMT -5
I agree on every point concerning The Spiderverse, though I'm not as in love with it as you seem to be. Well, you'll find "Aquaman" is a competently made piece of popcorn with an above-average amount of plot holes, inconsistencies, and a villain who makes most other film villains look deep. Like, even "Lethal Weapon" bad guys are more deeply written than Aquaman's half-brother, Orm. It's fun, the visuals are great, the characters are enjoyable, the action is good, and the film keeps moving, and there is no shortage of variety in environments and set pieces. More on the villain: the guy doesn't have a motive to invade the surface world. None whatsoever. The best he's given is one throwaway line about how us surface dwellers litter and pollute. I never thought I'd say this of a DCEU film, but I was expecting better of their villain, because, muddled as their motives were, at least Zod, Lex, Steppenwolf, and Ares HAD them. The worst part is watching poor Patrick Wilson desperately trying to make this cardboard cutout he's been hired to play into a proper character. He WANTS Orm to be a character so bad, but the script gives him nothing beyond some vague xenophobia. And we're not even meant to really hate him, either, because there are times where he LOOKS conflicted and tormented, an obvious visual cue that he's supposed to be "deep," but it's completely unearned. I'm convinced that director James Wan and his writers filmed scenes that gave the story and characters more depth, but all of them ended up on the cutting room floor, because Warner Bros. Thanks for the thorough rundown. It sounds... a lot like the rest of the DCEU movies, honestly. Half-baked yet overwrought, unearned but overblown, fun but stupid, and so on. I will say that I don't like the look of the film, from what I've seen; there's just a(n "underwater") sheen on it that's off-putting, but I guess you prolly stop noticing it after a few minutes. Can't say I noticed the underwater sheen much, myself, but I get where you're coming from. The more light-hearted mood of the movie as opposed to previous overly self-important entries like MoS and BvS thankfully makes a lot of its shortcomings more forgivable, since it clues you in on the fact that it's embracing the inherent camp of the comics (to a degree). If this film went all-in with the dire mood of earlier DCEU, the lapses in logic and half-baked writing would have been SO MUCH more noticeable... like the lapses in logic and half-baked writing of MoS and BvS.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 16:00:25 GMT -5
Thanks for the thorough rundown. It sounds... a lot like the rest of the DCEU movies, honestly. Half-baked yet overwrought, unearned but overblown, fun but stupid, and so on. I will say that I don't like the look of the film, from what I've seen; there's just a(n "underwater") sheen on it that's off-putting, but I guess you prolly stop noticing it after a few minutes. Can't say I noticed the underwater sheen much, myself, but I get where you're coming from.Ā The more light-hearted mood of the movie as opposed to previous overly self-important entries like MoS and BvS thankfully makes a lot of its shortcomings more forgivable, since it clues you in on the fact that it's embracing the inherent camp of the comics (to a degree). If this film went all-in with the dire mood of earlier DCEU, the lapses in logic and half-baked writing would have been SO MUCH more noticeable... like the lapses in logic and half-baked writing of MoS and BvS. Maybe that's the way forward for the DCEU -- a different tone and whatever else they're doing that's resonating with audiences. Basically become MCU lite and don't emphasize the interconnectivity as much, I guess. As opposed to tryna force it super hard and make every moment of every movie feel "epic."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 16:27:45 GMT -5
Can't say I noticed the underwater sheen much, myself, but I get where you're coming from. The more light-hearted mood of the movie as opposed to previous overly self-important entries like MoS and BvS thankfully makes a lot of its shortcomings more forgivable, since it clues you in on the fact that it's embracing the inherent camp of the comics (to a degree). If this film went all-in with the dire mood of earlier DCEU, the lapses in logic and half-baked writing would have been SO MUCH more noticeable... like the lapses in logic and half-baked writing of MoS and BvS. Maybe that's the way forward for the DCEU -- a different tone and whatever else they're doing that's resonating with audiences. Basically become MCU lite and don't emphasize the interconnectivity as much, I guess. As opposed to tryna force it super hard and make every moment of every movie feel "epic." And no more Jesus symbolism in their next Superman movie, for the love of... Jesus, ironically.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 17:04:40 GMT -5
Maybe that's the way forward for the DCEU -- a different tone and whatever else they're doing that's resonating with audiences. Basically become MCU lite and don't emphasize the interconnectivity as much, I guess. As opposed to tryna force it super hard and make every moment of every movie feel "epic." And no more Jesus symbolism in their next Superman movie, for the love of... Jesus, ironically. I wish they just do a straight Batman movie, unthethered to any overarching DCEU story and without any gimmick (e.g. Year One). But I guess we're not getting that anytime soon.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 18:03:05 GMT -5
And no more Jesus symbolism in their next Superman movie, for the love of... Jesus, ironically. I wish they just do a straight Batman movie, unthethered to any overarching DCEU story and without any gimmick (e.g. Year One). But I guess we're not getting that anytime soon. They should have just made the CW "Arrow" the Batman show the people behind it so obviously want to do, anyway. We haven't good a good live-action Batman show since the Adam West series, and I think we're overdue for that to be amended.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 18:23:11 GMT -5
I wish they just do a straight Batman movie, unthethered to any overarching DCEU story and without any gimmick (e.g. Year One). But I guess we're not getting that anytime soon. They should have just made the CW "Arrow" the Batman show the people behind it so obviously want to do, anyway. We haven't good a good live-action Batman show since the Adam West series, and I think we're overdue for that to be amended. What did you think of the Dean Cain Superman show back in the day? ETA: and Gotham?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 21:44:34 GMT -5
They should have just made the CW "Arrow" the Batman show the people behind it so obviously want to do, anyway. We haven't good a good live-action Batman show since the Adam West series, and I think we're overdue for that to be amended. What did you think of the Dean Cain Superman show back in the day? ETA: and Gotham? I enjoyed Dean Cain's Superman for being one of the few adaptations to assert Clark Kent, mind-mannered reporter, as the real Superman, and Superman just being the thing that he can do. It humanized him in ways I'm sure Henry Cavill would love to be done for his Superman. Gotham can chain itself to a cinderblock and jump into the river.
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What did you think of the Dean Cain Superman show back in the day? ETA: and Gotham? I enjoyed Dean Cain's Superman for being one of the few adaptations to assert Clark Kent, mind-mannered reporter, as the real Superman, and Superman just being the thing that he can do. It humanized him in ways I'm sure Henry Cavill would love to be done for his Superman.Ā Gotham can chain itself to a cinderblock and jump into the river. I remember loving the Dean Cain show as a kid, but I literally haven't seen it since the 90s. So maybe my memory is clouded by nostalgia. Damn, dude! Well, alright. Lucky you, I guess: at least it made you feel something. That show made me feel nothing whatsoever, and I watched it several different times. Well. I suppose I was a little bored, if that counts. Meh. Blah. That's how I feel about it: "meh" and "blah." Tell you the truth, I don't think it's a very interesting premise.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2019 22:51:36 GMT -5
I enjoyed Dean Cain's Superman for being one of the few adaptations to assert Clark Kent, mind-mannered reporter, as the real Superman, and Superman just being the thing that he can do. It humanized him in ways I'm sure Henry Cavill would love to be done for his Superman. Gotham can chain itself to a cinderblock and jump into the river. I remember loving the Dean Cain show as a kid, but I literally haven't seen it since the 90s. So maybe my memory is clouded by nostalgia. Damn, dude! Well, alright. Lucky you, I guess: at least it made you feel something. That show made me feel nothing whatsoever, and I watched it several different times. Well. I suppose I was a little bored, if that counts. Meh. Blah. That's how I feel about it: "meh" and "blah." Tell you the truth, I don't think it's a very interesting premise. Oh, "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" has plenty of issues, not least of which was focusing too much on the Lois/Clark romance and 'will-they-or-won't-they' angle. But as far as giving the world a likeable and relatable Superman is concerned, it did its job. And in light of how much the character has struggled to find his footing outside of animation lately, that is a bigger accomplishment than I'd previous thought. My reaction to "Gotham" is born of bafflement, mixed with disappointment, then turned to anger and annoyance. It is obvious that Showrunners of WB/DC's television division just want to make a Batman show SO badly, but they just keep getting blue-balled by a studio that insist on "the big screen or nothing." I have recently come to the conclusion that a TV show is Batman's best domain. Yeah, sure, you can do more spectacle in a Batman movie, like with the Tim Burton films, but a lot of The Bat's stories are expansive enough you'd really need a whole TV show season to tell most of them. Imagine a modern Batman TV show with a multi-season long battle against the League of Shadows, instead of restricting it to just one movie that Nolan made twice.
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