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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2021 18:04:25 GMT -5
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Dec 23, 2021 20:44:07 GMT -5
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Feb 15, 2022 2:17:01 GMT -5
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Post by President Ackbar mini™ on Feb 15, 2022 11:46:07 GMT -5
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Post by Weirdraptor mini™ on Feb 17, 2022 0:14:15 GMT -5
Looks like old-school Raimi from his Evil Dead days paired with an actual budget.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2022 12:27:04 GMT -5
Looks like old-school Raimi from his Evil Dead days paired with an actual budget. Is that good or bad? (Despite being a Raimi fanboy I have #NeverSeenIt)
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Post by Weirdraptor mini™ on Feb 17, 2022 16:13:51 GMT -5
Looks like old-school Raimi from his Evil Dead days paired with an actual budget. Is that good or bad? (Despite being a Raimi fanboy I have #NeverSeenIt)You should seriously see The Evil Dead films. They're easily the Raimi films I prefer to rewatch over anything else in the man's body of work.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 20:32:04 GMT -5
Just back from the theater! I have to say that even though I loved the absolute glorious RAIMINESS of this movie I am a tad conflicted. I would be willing to bet the original cut of this movie was considerably better. You can feel the reshoots and they very clearly butchered Act One. This movie needed more character moments and an extra half hour in there. Chalice_Of_Evil I ended up agreeing with you on Wanda: Though I love Olsen and her performance, I did find her sudden witchy witchness very jarring. I kind of wish they chose another villain and saved her for another movie. I really didn’t like her being evil. When Strange says “kick that witch’s ass” I just thought to myself “Don’t talk about my Witchy Woman like that!” The Illuminati stuff was oddly dull. I should’ve been excited to see all those characters, but they felt forced. The movie was so much better when they focused on Strange. The best parts of the movie were the pure Raimi moments and Stephen-centric stuff. Act Three was phenomenal because it had lots of both. I loved the arc for Stephen, but you don’t get enough of it. The movie moves too fast. I know I’ll like it more on rewatches. Just gotta get some of the negative thoughts out of my system.
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Post by Weirdraptor mini™ on May 9, 2022 20:37:11 GMT -5
Well, I liked it. Just got back from the theater not long ago and been mulling over my thoughts. 8/10, even though I also have problems with how they treated Wanda. I didn't think Raimi still had it in him. The other most recent film from him that I like is from the 90s.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 20:45:02 GMT -5
Well, I liked it. Just got back from the theater not long ago and been mulling over my thoughts. 8/10, even though I also have problems with how they treated Wanda. I didn't think Raimi still had it in him. The other most recent film from him that I like is from the 90s. Glad you liked it, man! I think I’ll like it more when I rewatch it. There was so much of it that I loved. The scenes with the two Stephens in the screwed up universe were so good. I love how complex Strange is as a character.
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Post by Weirdraptor mini™ on May 9, 2022 20:58:53 GMT -5
Well, I liked it. Just got back from the theater not long ago and been mulling over my thoughts. 8/10, even though I also have problems with how they treated Wanda. I didn't think Raimi still had it in him. The other most recent film from him that I like is from the 90s. Glad you liked it, man! I think I’ll like it more when I rewatch it. There was so much of it that I loved. The scenes with the two Stephens in the screwed up universe were so good. I love how complex Strange is as a character. I am, too. It was a trip and a literal horror movie, which is what it needed to be. And best of all, they kept no X-Men from another dimension. Whew. I was so relieved when Xavier died. Please keep that Fox crap out of my MCU.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 21:05:26 GMT -5
Glad you liked it, man! I think I’ll like it more when I rewatch it. There was so much of it that I loved. The scenes with the two Stephens in the screwed up universe were so good. I love how complex Strange is as a character. I am, too. It was a trip and a literal horror movie, which is what it needed to be. And best of all, they kept no X-Men from another dimension. Whew. I was so relieved when Xavier died. Please keep that Fox crap out of my MCU. I gotta say as i huge fan of Stewart’s Xavier and (some of, not all) of those movies, I felt nothing from seeing him. No excitement or anything. I was just like “eh, he had a good run. What is the point of this now?”
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Post by Weirdraptor mini™ on May 9, 2022 21:13:21 GMT -5
I am, too. It was a trip and a literal horror movie, which is what it needed to be. And best of all, they kept no X-Men from another dimension. Whew. I was so relieved when Xavier died. Please keep that Fox crap out of my MCU. I gotta say as i huge fan of Stewart’s Xavier and (some of, not all) of those movies, I felt nothing from seeing him. No excitement or anything. I was just like “eh, he had a good run. What is the point of this now?” I feel the same about all of this. Why bring back the past Spider-Men, especially with no future projects with them officially announced? Why bring back the X-Men when the fanbase is begging for a clean slate for the brand? I never in a million years dreamed Feige would give into the temptation to play on such obvious nostalgia bait when the MCU Had been so consistent up until this point.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 21:18:47 GMT -5
I gotta say as i huge fan of Stewart’s Xavier and (some of, not all) of those movies, I felt nothing from seeing him. No excitement or anything. I was just like “eh, he had a good run. What is the point of this now?” I feel the same about all of this. Why bring back the past Spider-Men, especially with no future projects with them officially announced? Why bring back the X-Men when the fanbase is begging for a clean slate for the brand? I never in a million years dreamed Feige would give into the temptation to play on such obvious nostalgia bait when the MCU Had been so consistent up until this point. The Spider-Man stuff worked for me because we had an MCU Peter to ground the story. It’s an obvious gimmick for sure. But I enjoyed it. Xavier just felt random here.
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Post by Weirdraptor mini™ on May 9, 2022 21:28:29 GMT -5
I feel the same about all of this. Why bring back the past Spider-Men, especially with no future projects with them officially announced? Why bring back the X-Men when the fanbase is begging for a clean slate for the brand? I never in a million years dreamed Feige would give into the temptation to play on such obvious nostalgia bait when the MCU Had been so consistent up until this point. The Spider-Man stuff worked for me because we had an MCU Peter to ground the story. It’s an obvious gimmick for sure. But I enjoyed it. Xavier just felt random here. Fair enough. And if I was excited about the Xavier, I definitely wouldn't have been pleased to see a variant of the character reminiscent of the 90s animated series just killed off for no reason. I hope this multiverse stuff ends soon, because I don't like how its being used as a gimmick as much as a story-telling device.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2022 21:39:42 GMT -5
The Spider-Man stuff worked for me because we had an MCU Peter to ground the story. It’s an obvious gimmick for sure. But I enjoyed it. Xavier just felt random here. Fair enough. And if I was excited about the Xavier, I definitely wouldn't have been pleased to see a variant of the character reminiscent of the 90s animated series just killed off for no reason. I hope this multiverse stuff ends soon, because I don't like how its being used as a gimmick as much as a story-telling device. I want more MCU based variants like Captain Carter. No more nods to other studios’ canons though.
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Post by Weirdraptor mini™ on May 9, 2022 21:44:44 GMT -5
Fair enough. And if I was excited about the Xavier, I definitely wouldn't have been pleased to see a variant of the character reminiscent of the 90s animated series just killed off for no reason. I hope this multiverse stuff ends soon, because I don't like how its being used as a gimmick as much as a story-telling device. I want more MCU based variants like Captain Carter. No more nods to other studios’ canons though. YES. A lot of what they've done with the multiverse so far is so tacky. I had such high hopes for it, too. I hope whatever comes next sticks with using it for the story they're telling next time.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on May 11, 2022 1:45:34 GMT -5
I would be willing to bet the original cut of this movie was considerably better. You can feel the reshoots and they very clearly butchered Act One. This movie needed more character moments and an extra half hour in there. Chalice_Of_Evil I ended up agreeing with you on Wanda: Though I love Olsen and her performance, I did find her sudden witchy witchness very jarring. I kind of wish they chose another villain and saved her for another movie. I really didn’t like her being evil. When Strange says “kick that witch’s ass” I just thought to myself “Don’t talk about my Witchy Woman like that!” The Illuminati stuff was oddly dull. I should’ve been excited to see all those characters, but they felt forced. The movie was so much better when they focused on Strange. **spoilers below for the movie for anyone who hasn't seen it, obviously** I'd like to find a definitive list of everything that was cut/changed/altered from the original version of the movie. I might have been disappointed with the film somewhat, but I'd certainly still check out an extended cut if one ever became available (which, sadly, I don't think will ever happen. The best we can hope for is maybe some of the cut scenes as extras on the DVD/Blu-ray release of the movie?). I did find one video that talked about stuff it seems to *know* for sure was cut whislt also speculating on other things cut: As much as I criticised the writing for Wanda in this movie (in my review I posted here: imdbchatterbox.freeforums.net/thread/146/last-movie-watched?page=4 ), Elizabeth Olsen's performance in the film could not be faulted. She totally brought it and was downright scary at times (others have mentioned her pursuit of Strange, Christina and America whilst in other Wanda's body, where she was limping after them like a zombie - that was an excellent example of how to do the enemy chasing the heroes done WELL - though I find it amusing everyone seemed to think they'd get Zombie Wanda from What If...? in this movie and instead it was just regular Wanda with a big-arse scar across her face...and possessed by her alternate self). Yes, when Strange said that line you mentioned - I had the same react to you. I could tell it was intended as a "Hell yeah!" moment for the audience, where they were meant to cheer and agree with him...and maybe that's what kids in the audience did, because they only have a simplistic view of things and think of things as very black & white (ie. Strange = good guy, Wanda = bad guy), but one would hope more mature people would get that there's much MORE going on here than just that. I HATE when movies try to TELL me when I should be cheering or booing, as guess what? Sometimes I DISAGREE. So, yeah, that moment/line just pissed me off and I was at least relieved I didn't hear anyone in my audience cheering or yelling out things like, "YEAH! Kick that bitch's arse!" or anything like that. It's was a pretty eyeroll-worthy moment too (just like in T3 when Claire Danes' character yells out, "Just DIE, you bitch!" to the T-X...which is a machine. Totally intended as a "Hell yeah!" moment, obviously...but totally fell flat). I didn't find the Illuminati stuff particularly dull...though without those creative deaths, it wouldn't have been particularly memorable either. Speaking of...what'd you think of those various demises? After watching the vid on YouTube showing this scene and reading some comments about what you see when you slow it down, it appears Peggy didn't just get a shield to the stomach...but was apparently sliced in half? And Xavier didn't just get a broken neck like I originally thought. Wanda seems to rip his head OFF. I saw these two things after someone said to slow it down on the viewing speed thingy. Anyway, most of my thoughts on the movie was in my review.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 11:40:25 GMT -5
I would be willing to bet the original cut of this movie was considerably better. You can feel the reshoots and they very clearly butchered Act One. This movie needed more character moments and an extra half hour in there. Chalice_Of_Evil I ended up agreeing with you on Wanda: Though I love Olsen and her performance, I did find her sudden witchy witchness very jarring. I kind of wish they chose another villain and saved her for another movie. I really didn’t like her being evil. When Strange says “kick that witch’s ass” I just thought to myself “Don’t talk about my Witchy Woman like that!” The Illuminati stuff was oddly dull. I should’ve been excited to see all those characters, but they felt forced. The movie was so much better when they focused on Strange. **spoilers below for the movie for anyone who hasn't seen it, obviously** I'd like to find a definitive list of everything that was cut/changed/altered from the original version of the movie. I might have been disappointed with the film somewhat, but I'd certainly still check out an extended cut if one ever became available (which, sadly, I don't think will ever happen. The best we can hope for is maybe some of the cut scenes as extras on the DVD/Blu-ray release of the movie?). I did find one video that talked about stuff it seems to *know* for sure was cut whislt also speculating on other things cut: As much as I criticised the writing for Wanda in this movie (in my review I posted here: imdbchatterbox.freeforums.net/thread/146/last-movie-watched?page=4 ), Elizabeth Olsen's performance in the film could not be faulted. She totally brought it and was downright scary at times (others have mentioned her pursuit of Strange, Christina and America whilst in other Wanda's body, where she was limping after them like a zombie - that was an excellent example of how to do the enemy chasing the heroes done WELL - though I find it amusing everyone seemed to think they'd get Zombie Wanda from What If...? in this movie and instead it was just regular Wanda with a big-arse scar across her face...and possessed by her alternate self). Yes, when Strange said that line you mentioned - I had the same react to you. I could tell it was intended as a "Hell yeah!" moment for the audience, where they were meant to cheer and agree with him...and maybe that's what kids in the audience did, because they only have a simplistic view of things and think of things as very black & white (ie. Strange = good guy, Wanda = bad guy), but one would hope more mature people would get that there's much MORE going on here than just that. I HATE when movies try to TELL me when I should be cheering or booing, as guess what? Sometimes I DISAGREE. So, yeah, that moment/line just pissed me off and I was at least relieved I didn't hear anyone in my audience cheering or yelling out things like, "YEAH! Kick that bitch's arse!" or anything like that. It's was a pretty eyeroll-worthy moment too (just like in T3 when Claire Danes' character yells out, "Just DIE, you bitch!" to the T-X...which is a machine. Totally intended as a "Hell yeah!" moment, obviously...but totally fell flat). I didn't find the Illuminati stuff particularly dull...though without those creative deaths, it wouldn't have been particularly memorable either. Speaking of...what'd you think of those various demises? After watching the vid on YouTube showing this scene and reading some comments about what you see when you slow it down, it appears Peggy didn't just get a shield to the stomach...but was apparently sliced in half? And Xavier didn't just get a broken neck like I originally thought. Wanda seems to rip his head OFF. I saw these two things after someone said to slow it down on the viewing speed thingy. Anyway, most of my thoughts on the movie was in my review. The screenwriter recently confirmed that the original script had Wanda posing as an ally before turning halfway through. I would’ve liked this far better. I wasn’t initially opposed to Wanda turning evil if done right. But it’s very hard to suddenly root against a character we have been deliberately trained by the studio to like. There needed to be more tragedy and ambiguity to her. Or at least, a more gradual reveal of how she’d been “corrupted”. Some will say that the DisneyFlix show does some of this work, but you already know how I feel about those things being “required viewing”. Even putting that aside, I think these movies should stand on their own, even apart from other movies to at least a certain extent. And most do. As for the deaths and the Illuminati…. I had them spoiled before and wish that I hadn’t. It really took the fun out of it knowing who they were and how they died before it all happened. I’ll be more careful to avoid this stuff for future movies. I also did not find the deaths to be graphic at all. I didn’t realize Peggy was cut in half and I thought Charles simply had his neck snapped. I’ll watch closer once it comes out on blu ray.
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